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Robert Shearman
Website:
RobertShearman.net
Still under
40yrs old, Robert Shearman, playwright and screenwriter, has rung up an
impressive level of achievements including a play produced by Francis
Ford Coppola, winning the Sunday Times Playwright Award and, one for SF
fans, bringing back the Daleks in Dr Who.
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Tiny Deaths (Comma Press,
Nov 2007)
Winner, 2008 World Fantasy Award for Best Collection; Shortlisted, 2008
Edge Hill Short Story Prize; Longlisted, 2008 Frank O'Connor International Short Story Prize
Reviewed by
Mark Dalligan
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Interview
with Robert Shearman
The
Short Review:
How long did it take you to write all the stories in your collection?
Robert Shearman: The
majority of them were written over the space of four months. I find
that a bit embarrassing in retrospect. It feels a bit too fast. But
that was the joyous thing about it, looking back - writing a story
feels a bit like rehearsing an argument, and by opening up the
prosecution in one story, you're inspired to write a defence in
another. The more stories I wrote, the more stories I was inspired to
write, that bounced off them somehow - and it became a faster and
faster process, so that by the final month I was producing maybe two or
three a week. My wife found it very amusing, because she knows by
nature I'm a horribly lazy writer, and will always rather Google my
name on the internet (which is shameful), and watch antique hunt
programmes on afternoon telly (which is worse). She found that this
sudden change in me, this compulsion to go outside with my notebook and
pen, very funny.
TSR: Did you
have a collection in mind when you were writing them?
RS: Oh yes. I was very
lucky. I'd written a story for an anthology for Comma Press - and I'd
done it with a reasonable amount of bad grace and paranoia, because I'd
never written prose much before: I saw myself exclusively as a
dramatist and wasn't sure I could get to grips with the pressures of
paragraphs and punctuation. I agreed to write them something, on the
proviso that if it turned out to be quite quite awful, that we could
both walk away without embarrassment. And I loved writing that short
story. I loved it, in a way I hadn't loved writing in years. Within
months I was asked by Ra Page, the editor there, whether I'd like to
have a stab at producing a collection for them, and I almost bit off
his hand in enthusiasm. As it was, having finished that first story, I
hadn't been able to help myself, and had written another two stories,
just for fun. That had already shaped what I thought the book was going
to be - something called Tiny
Deaths, a slightly quirky collection which dealt with
different attitudes towards mortality and sex.
TSR: How did
you choose which stories to include and in what order?
RS: It sounds a bit
pretentious - but they almost chose themselves. Having gone into the
collection with the slightly pompous idea that all the stories were
going to be connected by one overarching (and somewhat grandiose)
theme, I realised that what I wanted to write kept on kicking against
it. If I wrote a relatively realistic tale, my brain would
automatically start nagging me to come up with something that was more
freewheeling, more absurd, for the next one. And so it went on. I
remember writing a couple of stories and thinking what a shame it was
that they didn't so strictly fit into the rigid structure I'd set out
for the book - only to realise, looking back on them, sometimes only
after publication (!), that there was a connection to them after all. I
was quite nervous to be tackling a collection straight off, and girded
my loins to the task by being quite arrogant with its ambition - and
the best of the book now is seeing that arrogance crumble; you can
become a slave to your own ambitions. When I write a story, I rarely
know where's it going to end - I start with a conceit, or an image, or
even just an opening sentence that catches my fancy - but part of the
freedom of writing is that you don't necessarily have to follow a map
to see where those sentences are going to take you. If that's true of a
story, then it's obviously true of a collection of stories! The
overarching theme of a book is worth nothing if you can't get the
little details right, if the short stories don't work on their own
terms.
In a way, then, writing a book
called Tiny
Deaths, which was supposed to be contrasting takes on loss
and finality, seems to me now an overly self-conscious thing to do. In
the end, "tiny deaths" is really a metaphor for what short stories can
be. Tales which are so short that even as they burst into life, that
their endings are only a few pages away. What I learned writing the
book was how endlessly pliable the short story form is, how you can
bend it in all sorts of directions, tease all sorts of things out of
it. They can be huge in scope, these little tales, or they can be
almost embarrassingly intimate. Captured moments as vignettes, or epics
in all but word count. It was once I'd realised that, and freed myself
up a bit, that the book found its structure. Short story collections
can be a bit of a contradiction. Part of the pleasure of short stories
is that they can stand on their own, and be taken out of context
altogether. But I also love the idea of a book of clearly separate
stories which also somehow collide off each other, and in the collision
say something about the other stories around them. It's the idea of a
short story as a novel. It's really seductive, that idea. I didn't get
it right at all in Tiny
Deaths, though Ra and I tried hard to find the right order
that the stories should be in to lend it that sense of growth and
contrast. (And, if I'm brutally honest, because I'm mostly a comedy
writer - I wanted the book to be structured so that the gags worked.
You don't play a gag which is too similar to another gag, or you only
get one laugh. Most of the best comedy is in the dying falls between
the jokes, so the stories are positioned in a way that - hopefully -
gives that effect the best.)
TSR: What does the word "story"
mean to you?
RS: That's
really difficult. I don't know. I think it's an opportunity, really.
It's a cover-all word which allows the most perfectly studied piece of
prose poetry, which can last only a few lines, or something as vast as The Iliad. And the
opportunity is there, when you write a story, to play within any
section of the enormous ball park that a 'story' suggests: the intimate
or the epic, or sometimes - if you're cleverer than me - both at once.
TSR: Do you
have a "reader" in mind when you write stories?
RS: Not
the short stories. I don't know why. I think it's because they feel
mine. My background has been in writing theatre - for about ten years
that was all I ever produced, plays that could be set before an
audience that the actors and the author could see every night, and
whose reactions could easily be gauged, dependent on whether they
laughed or coughed or fidgeted with their bag of chocolates. It makes
you feel acutely responsible for them. You stand at the back of the
circle and feel pangs when you can sense the audience is no longer
engaged with what you're offering them - it's not that they have to be
laughing or applauding or anything obvious like that, the best plays
are often ones in which the audience sits in a silence so still you can
hear a pin drop. And you're aware too that writing new plays for the
theatre puts a financial burden upon the management which commissions
you; it's always cheaper to put on something established which will get
bums on seats, and some sort of gamble is therefore being taken on a
brand new script. But there's a danger that all this awareness that you
need to do right by your audiences, and by the people who employ you,
can make you very self-conscious. You worry too much about reaction,
rather than getting the story right. When I moved over to radio and
television, I'd no longer be able to hear the audience - but I could
still imagine them.
When the short stories started flooding
out of me... I didn't give that audience a second thought. I found I
was writing to please myself. (That was mostly because I honestly
couldn't imagine anyone reading these stories in the first place -
after all, why should they?) I worried at the beginning it'd make me
very self-indulgent, but I soon realised my Inner Critic was a hateful
buzzing thing which would constantly demand that I try harder, aim
higher, be better. He's a right sod, that Inner Critic - but he's also
more reliable, I think, than trying to imagine that audience rustling
their Milk Chocolate Assortments during your climactic revelations in
Act Two. Now when I write stories I only imagine myself, looking back
on them in a few years' time, and whether I'll be ashamed of them or
not. I know that if I feel I need to make excuses for them as I'm
working on them, even to myself, then eventually I'll hate the things.
TSR: Is there
anything you'd like to ask someone who has read your
collection,
anything at all?
RS: Oh, of course!
It's awful doing it, in a way - it's a bit like prodding an aching
tooth, but you can't stop yourself. I'd ask what stories they enjoyed,
but mostly I'd be wanting to know what stories they didn't - and then
fight the urge to cover my ears for the reply. But it's honestly
interesting to find out which stories irritate a reader, and that's
somehow more satisfying than finding out which ones get a tick. What I
love is that no-one ever seems to agree on the stories. I think that's
really great, actually - that they can provoke real differences of
opinion. There's a story that my wife absolutely hates in Tiny Deaths - she's
said that if I ever give a public reading of it, she'll walk out. Other
people love that one. Every person who talks to me about the book in
detail - when they feel brave enough, because deep down we're all very
polite and want to be nice - always champions a handful, and is left
cold by a few others. There's just never any common consensus which.
That makes me happy. If someone read Tiny Deaths and
liked all the stories, I'd almost feel I hadn't tried hard enough to
vary the tone, that they were all a bit samey. I think there's
something a bit gleeful about reading anyone's collection, and thinking
with each new story that the author is saying, "Right, like that one,
did you? Give this one a go, then, this one might really piss you off!"
It's right that an author should play with the reader like that. All
the authors I really love piss me off from time to time. That's their
job!
TSR: How does it feel knowing that people are buying your book?
RS: Ha! Well,
bemused, mostly. When you consider just how many better books there are
in the world, it's absolutely staggering to think someone's going to
make the effort to wade through my collection rather than something
else. But with that comes enormous, enormous pride and gratitude. I'm
still thrilled to go into a bookshop and find something I wrote on the
shelf - I'd love to say I'd always resisted the urge to take a
photograph, or to move my books to pole position... but I'd be lying.
(I did go into a Waterstone's once, and found that Tiny Deaths had
made it to the special 'staff recommendations' table. And I was so
thrilled I beat down my usual shyness, and thanked the people on the
checkout. Who all looked rather blankly at me, and told me that none of
them had read it - that must have been Teresa, she must have liked it,
but she wasn't in today, she was off sick. So thank you, Teresa, very
much, and I hope you get well soon!) I've got my book on my own
bookshelf, of course, but it's hard to feel too smug about it; it would
help if I had a different surname, but as it is all I see is this
rather apologetic thin volume in the shadow of the complete plays of
Shakespeare. That does somewhat put the achievement into perspective!
TSR: What are
you working on now?
RS: I've just
finished a second collection of stories, which is called Love Songs for the Shy and
Cynical, and which will be out early next year. I'm still
in that lovely happy place in my brain where I feel blissfully proud of
it, and think it's rather good. Then I think it's back to TV and radio
for a while. (And I've co-written a Doctor Who novel
which is out in December - Doctor
Who is a bit like the Mafia, once you've written for it,
it never quite lets you go!) But it's very strange - I always assumed
that this dip into short story writing was a little detour. I find it
so exciting, and I think it's changing my career. I'm gobsmacked by the
attention Tiny
Deaths has got - shortlisted for the Edge Hill, longlisted
for the Frank O'Connor, and currently up for two World Fantasy Awards.
(The announcement is in Calgary in November, and I'm flying over with
my best suit - fingers crossed!) What's wonderful is that I'm now being
approached for more prose work, and publishers want to discuss novels
too. I'd never want to abandon short stories, because I love writing
them so much, and find them so challenging and exciting to tackle - and
I find it hard to believe, whatever I end up writing next, I won't be
slinking off to write short stories in the afternoon alongside them.
TSR: What are
the three most recent short story collections you've read?
RS: Elizabeth Baines' brilliant Balancing on the Edge of the World
- it constantly teases with what the short story can be. In the
collection you have stories which teeter on the edge of being verse,
and others which suggest the breadth of novels - I'm not sure I've read
a book which so clearly plays with the outer edges of what defines a
short story. It prompted me to go back to a couple of stories in my new
book and work them harder. Alison Macleod's Fifteen Modern Tales of Attraction
is simply stunning. It does what I wish my collections could do -
produce a series of stories which somehow bounce off each other with
such skill that they keep on throwing new reflections upon tales you
read a hundred pages before. And the final story in the book is just
about perfect - it's witty and very clever and so moving. (Don't read
it before you've read the others, though. It'd still work. But the
cumulative effect of these studies of love is just extraordinary.) And
I'm currently reading a faded Penguin book I found in a charity shop -
Bernard Malamud's Pictures of Fidelman. I've only just started it, but enjoying it so far.
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